# SMP 289:   The Author of The Lean Startup Explains How to Build an Incorruptible Company

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Podcast: [Solar Maverick Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/solar-maverick-podcast-75045)
Published: 2026-06-30T10:27:46+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of the Solar Maverick Podcast, Benoy Thanjan speaks with Eric Ries, bestselling author of The Lean Startup, about his new book, Incorruptible. Eric explains why successful companies often lose their mission as they grow, take on outside capital, and face pressure to prioritize short-term shareholder returns over long-term value. He explores how founders can protect the original purpose of their companies through stronger governance, legal structures, aligned investors, and what he calls “mission integrity.” The conversation also covers lessons from Costco, FedMart, Anthropic, public benefit corporations, employee ownership, and purpose trusts. Eric also explains why the core principles of The Lean Startup remain highly relevant in the age of artificial intelligence.

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