# HTMX Creator Carson Gross on Comp Sci's Evolution

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Published: 2026-04-01T02:04:56+00:00
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## Resource

HTMX creator and Montana State University instructor Carson Gross talks to Richard about why HTMX moved from version 2 straight to version 4, API boundaries in library design, jQuery, and how the field of Computer Science education is now changing from the perspective of someone who's been teaching it for years. This episode was sponsored by mailtrap.io - modern email delivery for developers. Try Mailtrap for free: https://l.rw.rw/software_unscripted_2 Patreon supporters get ad-free episodes! https://www.patreon.com/SoftwareUnscripted - HTMX - https://htmx.org/ - Version 2 → Version 4 announcement https://htmx.org/essays/the-fetchening/ - Shoutout to other htmx contributors: https://github.com/bencroker https://github.com/benpate https://github.com/alexpetros https://github.com/Telroshan https://github.com/MichaelWest22 - Carson's hardware course - https://github.com/msu/csci-366-spring2025/blob/main/SYLLABUS.md - Big Sky Dev Conf - https://bigskydevconf.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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