# Reasonable Force or Reckless Action? The Debate on Police Standards

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Podcast: [Smerconish on CNN](https://stenobird.com/podcast/smerconish-on-cnn-6935140)
Published: 2026-01-10T18:23:00+00:00
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## Resource

Michael discusses the recent viral video concerning a Minnesota ICE agent's use of lethal force against a fleeing vehicle, questioning the lack of critical thinking and bipartisan analysis. He emphasizes the need for a transparent, independent investigation and details relevant guidelines and policies from various government publications on the use of deadly force. Additionally, the episode examines widespread fraud during the COVID-19 pandemic, including the massive scale of government assistance fraud across all states, not just Minnesota. Expert insights from Kevin Davis, a former police officer, and Haywood Tal Cove from LexisNexis Risk Solutions, enrich the discussion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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