# Built a 200-Person Agency, Why Cut It in Half? With Hope Horner | Ep #912

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Podcast: [Smart Agency Masterclass with Jason Swenk: Podcast for Digital Marketing Agencies](https://stenobird.com/podcast/smart-agency-masterclass-with-jason-swenk-podcast-for-digital-marketing-agencies-391378)
Published: 2026-06-07T11:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1739

## Resource

Would you like access to our advanced agency training for FREE? https://www.agencymastery360.com/training Have you ever hired your way into a problem? Have you promoted your best people into management roles and watched them struggle, not because they lacked talent, but because nobody asked whether that was actually the job they wanted? Today's featured guest grew her agency team to nearly 200 people before making the deliberate decision to scale back to around 75. She did it not because the business was failing, but because she had learned the hard way that headcount is not leverage. In this episode, she walks through what each stage of that growth actually cost, how she thinks about the difference between a manager and an executive, and why going all in on one service in 2017 was the scariest and most important decision she made for her agency. Hope Horner is the co-founder and CEO of Lemonlight , a video content agency based in California that produces commercials and primarily works with enterprise clients. She started the company in 2014 in her bedroom with two co-founders, betting that affordable, accessible video content would become essential for brands who had been priced out of the market. She was right. Lemonlight grew to nearly 200 employees before a deliberate rightsizing brought the team to around 75. In this episode, we'll discuss: The difference that going all in on one niche made The mistake fast-growing agencies make Distinction between manager and executive Subscribe App le | Spotify | iHear t Rad io Sponsors and Resources This episode is brought to you by Wix Studio: If you're leveling up your team and your client experience, your site builder should keep up too. That's why successful agencies use Wix Studio — built to adapt the way your agency does…

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