# Reuben & Drew: The CMO, The Headteacher, and the Give a Shit-ometer

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Podcast: [Slow the F*ck Down Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/slow-the-f-ck-down-podcast-7571566)
Published: 2026-04-08T09:02:54+00:00
Episode link: https://www.thedrum.com/podcast/series/slow-the-f-ck-down-podcast
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Duration seconds: 2947

## Resource

In this episode, Reuben Arnold and Drew Povey join Emma Harris to unpack the addiction to chaos and the badge of honor we wear for being busy. From the C-suite to the classroom, they share real stories of the shadow of stress leaders cast, the madness of performing open-heart surgery while running a marathon, and why slow is actually a sign of wisdom, not weakness. This is an honest, high-energy conversation about jamming the machinery of a hyperactive world, redefining resilience, and why your Give a Shit-ometer is the only metric that truly leads to success that lasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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