# Creating a better food system between high diplomacy and bottom up approaches with Pio Wennubst and Jorrit Kiewik.

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Podcast: [Slow Food, the podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/slow-food-the-podcast-132404)
Published: 2025-11-18T05:00:00+00:00
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Are food systems changed bottom up or top down? How do diplomacy and negotiations on a high political level work? What is an effective way to bridge practice and policy? Today we discuss with diplomat Pio Wennubst and SFYN executive director Jorrit Kiewik, how policies and negotiations but also bottom-up approaches can change our food systems. What do Pio and Jorrit have in common? Apart from the faith in diplomacy and love for food, they were connected through Bites of Transfoodmation: an initiative that brings together young motivated individuals to create a community of practice and change the future of our food systems. Jorrit was one of the youth joining the initiative and Pio, founded BOT, via the Swiss Agency for Development and Cooperation. Read the Bites of Transfoodmation manifesto here: https://transfoodmation.com/bites-of-transfoodmation/manifesto/ Find here the CFS recommendations on promoting youth engagement and employment in agriculture and food systems for food security and nutrition:https://www.fao.org/fileadmin/templates/cfs/Docs2122/Youth/CFS_Policy_Recs_Youth_FInal_Agreed_Version_July2022.pdf A project by SFYN (Slow Food Youth Network) **Support our podcast by giving us a good rating on your favourite podcasting platform!

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