# #532 - Why you can't hire your way out of healthcare's workforce crisis | Navin Gupta (CEO, Viventium) + Adam Lewis (Founder, Apploi)

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Podcast: [Slice of Healthcare](https://stenobird.com/podcast/slice-of-healthcare-676665)
Published: 2026-05-06T17:30:55+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1317

## Resource

Navin Gupta is the CEO of Viventium, a verticalized HCM platform purpose-built for the post-acute care market — serving home health, skilled nursing, and hospice providers. He's spent over a decade at the intersection of senior care and technology, with deep experience across EHR, revenue cycle management, and engagement platforms for senior living. Adam Lewis is the founder of Apploi and now GM of Talent and Workforce Management at Viventium following the February acquisition. He's been building HR tech since 2007 and grew Apploi into a leading recruiting, credentialing, onboarding, and scheduling platform for healthcare. Together, the combined company now serves 13,000+ provider organizations and is on a mission to fix workforce instability in the most demographically urgent corner of healthcare. We discuss: Why post-acute care is the most mission-critical — and most underserved — tech opportunity in healthcare The four-part workforce crisis every operator is fighting: supply, utilization, retention, and compliance What the Apploi + Viventium acquisition unlocks that a five-year partnership couldn't Why hiring friction is a direct hit to revenue — and why staffing now sits with CEOs and COOs, not just HR The case for purpose-built vertical platforms over retrofitted horizontal HCM The Perks4Care acquisition, and why you cannot hire your way out of a retention problem Where AI creates real leverage in caregiver hiring — and how to deploy it without losing the human touch Three audit questions every post-acute provider should ask their current vendor today — Brought to you by: Sage Growth Partners — Value-focused strategy and marketing for growth-driven healthcare organizations. — Where to find Jared: • X: https://x.com/jaredstaylor • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com…

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