# What Next - SchadenFriday: Ben Shapiro’s Short—as in Abrupt—Decline

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Podcast: [Slate Daily Feed](https://stenobird.com/podcast/slate-daily-feed-530620)
Published: 2026-05-15T15:44:20+00:00
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Once a rising star of the New Right via New Media, Ben Shapiro and his Daily Wire have spent the second Trump administration in precipitous decline. Is it simply a case of bad business decisions running into their beloved capitalistic scythe or did their audience outpace them on a race to…let’s say “the right”? Guest: Will Sommer, senior reporter at The Bulwark. This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive episodes of What Next —you’ll also access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on  Apple Podcasts  and  Spotify . Or, visit  slate.com/whatnextplus  to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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