# Ep 164: More Referrals Aren't the Answer if They're Not a Good Fit

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Podcast: [Six Figure Designer](https://stenobird.com/podcast/six-figure-designer-6371876)
Published: 2026-06-22T11:00:57+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Pam closes out the V.I.P. Method series by explaining why more referrals are not always the answer if they are the wrong fit . She shares how designers can have referrals coming in and still feel frustrated when those opportunities are too small, too vague, too late, or not aligned with the level of work and fees they want. Pam explains why referral quality matters more than referral quantity, how past clients and industry partners may need clearer language about what kind of work to send your way, and why better-directed referrals can lead to stronger opportunity conversations, better proposals, and higher design fees. This episode leads into Pam’s free live workshop, The V.I.P. Path to Your Highest Design Fee , happening June 24th at 12 PM Eastern. Want to connect with me and learn more about my coaching program? You can find me here: Instagram: @pameladurkin Coaching: www.pamela-durkin.com/coaching

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