# Hope for better public transport in Derbyshire's Hope Valley – "Mini Switzerland"

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Podcast: [Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/simon-calder-s-independent-travel-podcast-3759397)
Published: 2026-05-15T02:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.independent.co.uk/newsletters
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## Resource

Transport expert Thomas Ableman has been telling me about his vision for “joined-up” mobility in the UK – giving people the freedom to live without a car, even in a small village. “Mini Switzerland” is a project to bring Swiss-style integrated public transport to rural England – and to demonstrate that dovetailing buses with trains can boost ridership and the local economy, while increasing options for residents and visitors. This podcast is free, as is Independent Travel's weekly newsletter. Sign up here to get it delivered to your inbox. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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