# Wrestling With Profits: Why Marketing Isn't Just a Profit Center Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/signal-stakes-7096520/wrestling-with-profits-why-marketing-isn-t-just-a-profit-center Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/signal-stakes-7096520/wrestling-with-profits-why-marketing-isn-t-just-a-profit-center.md Podcast: [Signal & Stakes](https://stenobird.com/podcast/signal-stakes-7096520) Published: 2025-01-24T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2440735/episodes/16476362-wrestling-with-profits-why-marketing-isn-t-just-a-profit-center.mp3 Audio file: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2440735/episodes/16476362-wrestling-with-profits-why-marketing-isn-t-just-a-profit-center.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/signal-stakes-7096520/episodes/wrestling-with-profits-why-marketing-isn-t-just-a-profit-center Duration seconds: 1863 ## Resource Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Call It RevOps, we dive into a provocative idea: What if marketing isn’t a profit center at all but a vital cost center instead? Join us as we challenge conventional thinking and explore why this perspective might just be the key to better business strategies. Special guest Devin Leshin, a marketing expert and former professional wrestler, brings a unique lens to the discussion. Drawing from his wrestling days, Devin shares insights on balancing audience en... ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/signal-stakes-7096520/episodes/wrestling-with-profits-why-marketing-isn-t-just-a-profit-center/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/signal-stakes-7096520/wrestling-with-profits-why-marketing-isn-t-just-a-profit-center.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.