# Quantum Computing’s Hardest Path Reaches a Breakthrough

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Podcast: [SHIFT](https://stenobird.com/podcast/shift-6601531)
Published: 2026-06-04T04:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Microsoft EVP Jason Zander on the materials breakthrough that closed the gap, how AI agents cut the roadmap in half, and why he believes quantum's real job might be to make AI smarter. We Meet: Microsoft EVP of Discovery & Quantum Jason Zander Credits: This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Meg Marco.

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