# AI Ethics Needs a Nightmare, Not a North Star

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Podcast: [SHIFT](https://stenobird.com/podcast/shift-6601531)
Published: 2026-05-06T04:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

What if the standard approach to responsible AI, built around aspirational values like fairness and transparency, is fundamentally broken in the age of AI agents? We Meet: Reid Blackman is the author of the new book The Ethical Nightmare Challenge and the founder of AI ethics consultancy Virtue. Episode Links: Reid and Jennifer are speaking at the Drawing Room Salon on May 20: https://thedrawingroom.ai/ Reid's new book: https://www.amazon.com/Ethical-Nightmare-Challenge-Avoid-Worst-ebook/dp/B0GRC1ZPYX Credits: This episode of SHIFT was produced by Jennifer Strong with help from Emma Cillekens. It was mixed by Garret Lang, with original music from him and Jacob Gorski. Art by Meg Marco.

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