# Estelle

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Podcast: [Shawn Stockman's On That Note](https://stenobird.com/podcast/shawn-stockman-s-on-that-note-7236262)
Published: 2026-05-13T11:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/1468/tracking.swap.fm/track/GShUDppPATUMmMhYllkv/traffic.megaphone.fm/IMP2354497234.mp3
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## Resource

Estelle sits down with Shawn Stockman for a powerful conversation on “American Boy,” meeting Kanye West, manifesting John Legend, and carrying West London soul onto a global stage. In this episode of On That Note, Estelle opens up about the creative instincts, industry lessons, and personal belief system that shaped her career. She reflects on selling thousands of CDs herself, building her own label, navigating labels that didn’t understand her, the story behind “American Boy,” her connection with John Legend, and the deeper legacy of representing Black UK music around the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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