# Ransomware vs. Exfiltration-Only—The Extortion Model Showdown

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Podcast: [ShadowTalk: Powered by ReliaQuest](https://stenobird.com/podcast/shadowtalk-powered-by-reliaquest-61547)
Published: 2026-02-18T23:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Resources: https://linktr.ee/ReliaQuestShadowTalk Join hosts Brandon and John as they discuss: Why extortion payment rates are the lowest everOrganizations paying ransomware but refusing data extortion demandsWhy defenders need both visibility and speedJohn Dilgen: Cyber Threat Intelligence Analyst at ReliaQuest, where he specializes in researching cyber threats impacting ReliaQuest customers. With a strong technical background, he previously served as an Incident Response Analyst and Trainer...

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