# Malware Isn't Required—How Ransomware Groups Turn Legitimate RMMs Into a Weapon

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Published: 2026-02-25T16:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Resources: https://linktr.ee/ReliaQuestShadowTalk Join hosts John and Tehman as they discuss: What attackers prefer over custom malwareHow signature-based detection failsProactive governance vs. reactive triageJohn Dilgen: Cyber Threat Intelligence Analyst at ReliaQuest, where he specializes in researching cyber threats impacting ReliaQuest customers. With a strong technical background, he previously served as an Incident Response Analyst and Trainer at ReliaQuest. Tehman Tariq: Sr. Manager o...

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