# What Rick Carlisle Said Changes the Conversation

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Podcast: [Setting The Pace: A Pacers Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/setting-the-pace-a-pacers-podcast-768329)
Published: 2026-07-15T04:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2021

## Resource

Alex Golden and Mike Facci are back to break down everything Rick Carlisle had to say during the Pacers' Summer League broadcast, and there was plenty to unpack. The guys discuss Carlisle's comments on Tyrese Haliburton, Ivica Zubac and Jarace Walker, including why the Pacers believe Zubac is such a seamless fit with their roster and the areas where the coaching staff wants to see Jarace continue to develop. Then, Alex and Facci dive into what could become one of the biggest storylines of the offseason and training camp: Jarace Walker vs. Ben Sheppard. Topics include: Rick Carlisle's latest thoughts on Haliburton, Zubac and Jarace Why Zubac's fit with Indiana may be even better than fans realize The next step in Jarace Walker's development Why the battle between Jarace Walker and Ben Sheppard could determine one of the Pacers' most important bench roles Which player has the inside track to earning the backup wing minutes next to Kelly Oubre Jr. How this competition could shape Indiana's rotation entering the season A loaded episode breaking down Rick Carlisle's comments and one of the most intriguing position battles the Pacers will have all offseason.

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