# Selling Out! — Ep 4: Keys, Mortgages & the Gay in the Village | Sam Murphy & Pip Newton-John

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Podcast: [Selling Out!](https://stenobird.com/podcast/selling-out-7769216)
Published: 2026-05-01T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/selling-out/episodes/selling-out-ep-4-keys-mortgages-the-gay-in-the-village
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Duration seconds: 4094

## Resource

Selling Out! is the podcast for LGBTQIA+ founders, leaders and creatives. Real conversations about building a life and a career on your own terms — straight jackets not included. 🏳️‍🌈 Episode 4 is our Property Special — and it turns out bricks, mortar and mortgages have a lot more to say about queerness than you might think. Sam Murphy (he/him, G) started out in the world of work by fibbing about his age to get a job in the local fish and chip shop in Horsham, got the sack then was re-hired when he was old enough to batter a sausage. A stint at the Woolwich Building Society led to a career in financial services, and when he spotted a bad boss and a brewing credit crunch in 2007, he and two colleagues jumped ship and built something better. Today he runs *Mortgage Medics*, now eleven strong, alongside *Wilbury Wealth* — a financial planning brand covering mortgages, pensions, investments and holistic wealth planning for clients at every stage of life, including the growing number of same-sex couples and non-traditional families who want someone who actually gets their world. Pip Newton-John (she/her, L) — yes, that Newton-John, Olivia was her dad's first cousin — came out of a performing arts degree at Winchester, scanned the newspaper for jobs like everyone did in 2005, and ended up falling in love with property. After stints in Winchester and Brighton, she joined her best friend Lucy at *Lawton & Dawe*, the Brighton-based estate agency and lettings firm Lucy founded 16 years ago. Nine women strong, trading standards regulated, and the only agency in East Sussex with that accreditation. Their block management arm, *Property Fusion*, manages blocks from Birmingham to the Isle of Wight to Devon. Two people who built careers in industries that weren't built for them —…

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