# Optimizing for Joy and Making Money Doing It

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Podcast: [Self Publishing Insiders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/self-publishing-insiders-285652)
Published: 2026-06-18T05:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Russell Nohelty of Hapitalist joins us to discuss how authors can find career success without sacrificing joy.

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