# 215 - Dying to Live

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Podcast: [Secular Buddhism](https://stenobird.com/podcast/secular-buddhism-1419312)
Published: 2026-01-21T19:51:07+00:00
Episode link: https://eightfoldpath.com/sbp/episode-215
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## Resource

In this episode, I talk to Andy Chaleff about his book Dying to Live , which explores our societal discomfort with death and how confronting mortality can lead to a more meaningful life. We discuss the "3 AM panic" of existential dread, the concept of "little deaths" as moments of letting go of identity and attachment, and the importance of "sitting with the question" rather than seeking definitive answers. Andy shares practical insights on how embracing uncertainty and practicing presence, even in difficult moments, can help us live more fully and authentically, transforming our relationship with life by accepting the inevitability of death. Explore more at eightfoldpath.com : full transcripts, guided meditations, courses, and Noah AI, an AI you can chat with about any episode or teaching. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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