# Plotters: The UK Terrorists Who Failed | Lizzie Dearden

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Podcast: [Secrets and Spies Podcast: Espionage | Global Issues | Current Affairs](https://stenobird.com/podcast/secrets-and-spies-podcast-espionage-global-issues-current-affairs-609504)
Published: 2026-02-28T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this conversation, Lizzie Dearden, a journalist specializing in terrorism reporting, shares her journey into the field, the writing of her book Plotters, and insights into the evolving landscape of terrorism in the UK. She discusses the emotional atmosphere of terrorism trials, the shift in threats post-2017, and the complexities of radicalization. Dearden highlights the challenges of public perception, the role of intelligence agencies, and the significance of case studies like Haroon Syed's. The conversation also touches on the impact of AI on radicalization and the future of terrorism.

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