# Full Stack Spies: Cyber Espionage in the Age of US China Competition | Ahana Datta Fasel

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Podcast: [Secrets and Spies Podcast: Espionage | Global Issues | Current Affairs](https://stenobird.com/podcast/secrets-and-spies-podcast-espionage-global-issues-current-affairs-609504)
Published: 2026-06-13T09:46:34+00:00
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Ahana Datta Fasel joins Chris to explore how cyber espionage reflects the psychology, culture, and strategic priorities of the states that conduct it. Drawing on her experience as a former British government ethical hacker and author of Full Stack Spies, she examines China's cyber ecosystem, the human motivations behind hacking operations, and why the line between peace and conflict in the digital age has become increasingly blurred.

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