# Britain's Next PM, AI's Counterintelligence Problem, and Ukraine's Warrior-Witches | Espresso Martini

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Podcast: [Secrets and Spies Podcast: Espionage | Global Issues | Current Affairs](https://stenobird.com/podcast/secrets-and-spies-podcast-espionage-global-issues-current-affairs-609504)
Published: 2026-07-04T06:00:00+00:00
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Chris and Matt examine the political fallout from Keir Starmer's departure as Prime Minister, the prospect of Andy Burnham taking over, and what it means for Britain's defence and national security. They also explore AI as a new counterintelligence threat through Anthropic's Claude experiment before looking at Ukraine's remarkable "warrior-witches", where traditional spycraft and modern drone warfare collide.

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