# How to Stay Positive About the Future with Florence Gaub

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Podcast: [Second Breakfast with Surf With Amigas](https://stenobird.com/podcast/second-breakfast-with-surf-with-amigas-6397046)
Published: 2026-03-12T12:45:00+00:00
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How do you think about the future? Does it make you anxious? Are you an optimist or a doomsdayer? Today we sat down with Florence Gaub, a futurist and author at NATO, who shares her unique journey from growing up in Munich to becoming an avid surfer and a key figure in today's world of geopolitics. We chat about her unique approaches to living life in the present and how to balance future challenges with optimism, action, and a bit of what she calls compassionate courage: how to stay grounded in the present but still be ready for what comes next.

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