# Sea Control: 594: From Hulls to Pods with Emma Salisbury Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/sea-control-989356/sea-control-594-from-hulls-to-pods-with-emma-salisbury Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/sea-control-989356/sea-control-594-from-hulls-to-pods-with-emma-salisbury.md Podcast: [Sea Control](https://stenobird.com/podcast/sea-control-989356) Published: 2026-01-10T14:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://sea-control.simplecast.com/episodes/sea-control-594-from-hulls-to-pods-FUPZ9di6 Audio file: https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/d140b128-44ca-45df-9229-d60d214a9f5c/episodes/4fa7548b-7970-4e61-9cff-256eb164696d/audio/f532935f-5c56-44df-b586-51e6bb3515a9/default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&feed=OHIsINAK Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/sea-control-989356/episodes/sea-control-594-from-hulls-to-pods-with-emma-salisbury Duration seconds: 924 ## Resource Dr. Emma Salisbury joins the program to discuss her essay, “From Hulls to Pods: Why NATO’s Navies Should Beware of the Allure of Mission Modularity,” in the new book in the ISPK SeaPower Series Guardians of the North Atlantic: NATO Maritime Strategies and Naval Operations in Turbulent Times. Dr. Emma Salisbury is a Non-Resident Senior Fellow in the Foreign Policy Research Institute’s National Security Program, an Associate Fellow at the Royal Navy Strategic Studies Centre, and a Contributing Editor at War on the Rocks. She writes widely on military-industrial matters, geopolitics, and national security in the United States, United Kingdom, and Europe, with a particular focus on the maritime. She is based just outside London in the United Kingdom. Jonathan Selling edited and produced this episode. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/sea-control-989356/episodes/sea-control-594-from-hulls-to-pods-with-emma-salisbury/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/sea-control-989356/sea-control-594-from-hulls-to-pods-with-emma-salisbury.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.