# Sea Control 583: Shaping the Blue Dragon with Ronald Po

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Podcast: [Sea Control](https://stenobird.com/podcast/sea-control-989356)
Published: 2025-07-23T13:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Professor Ronald Po joins Jonathan to discuss his new book, Shaping the Blue Dragon: Maritime China in the Ming and Qing Dynasties, which covers the maritime policies of the Ming and Qing dynasties.

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