# The Two-Country Scrum Team and the Rapport That Never Showed Up | Alf Dobbert-Baums

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Published: 2026-07-20T10:05:00+00:00
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## Resource

Alf Dobbert-Baums: The Two-Country Scrum Team and the Rapport That Never Showed Up Read the full Show Notes and search through the world's largest audio library on Agile and Scrum directly on the Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast website: http://bit.ly/SMTP_ShowNotes . "It did not quite go as planned. I was really humbled." - Alf Dobbert-Baums Alf was new in the company. His boss walked over with a setup that already sounded like a warning: two development teams in two countries, two locations in Germany, a "difficult" Product Owner — and a quick "do you want to take it?" Alf said sure. Everything happened on video chat. Every meeting, every conversation, every attempt to read the room — through a window that closed the moment the call ended. The rapport never built. The PO stayed difficult. Alf eventually got pulled from the team. Looking back, he saw what the video chat had hidden: the crossed arms, the eyes drifting to email, the small in-between moments that turn coworkers into colleagues. The fix wasn't a tool — it was a flight. Visit the other location. Run a workshop with a real goal ("how do we want to work together?", "what's hard about our setup?"). Build a positive anchor before anything goes wrong, not after. And when you do go, don't lead with the failures — lead with what could be possible together. In this episode, we refer to the practice of building team working agreements as a way to create rapport without putting people on the defensive. Self-reflection Question: When was the last time you saw the people you work with face-to-face — and what conversations are you still postponing because they only happen well in person? [The Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast Recommends] 🔥In the ruthless world of fintech, success isn't just about innovation—it's about coaching!…

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