# 20K in Sends, a Million in Pipeline (with Jess Annadurai from Supermetrics) | Ep. 278 Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/scrappy-abm-6475637/20k-in-sends-a-million-in-pipeline-with-jess-annadurai-from-supermetrics-ep-278 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/scrappy-abm-6475637/20k-in-sends-a-million-in-pipeline-with-jess-annadurai-from-supermetrics-ep-278.md Podcast: [Scrappy ABM](https://stenobird.com/podcast/scrappy-abm-6475637) Published: 2026-07-23T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://listen.casted.us/public/210/Scrappy-ABM-623cc20d Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/77b3a0b4-8e70-40de-93e1-5c9c9bf213da.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/scrappy-abm-6475637/episodes/20k-in-sends-a-million-in-pipeline-with-jess-annadurai-from-supermetrics-ep-278 Duration seconds: 1804 ## Resource Most product-led companies decide ABM isn't built for them and move on. On Scrappy ABM , Mason Cosby makes the opposite case with Jess Annadurai , Senior Global Marketing Director at Supermetrics, who ran customer expansion as the entry point instead of new business. ㅤ Supermetrics is a PLG company with a land-and-expand motion, and Jess treats its existing customer base as the strongest target account list it owns. She walks through how she, the VP of Sales, and the Director of Customer Success in North America picked accounts, why they started with an advocacy approach, and how a "meet your manager" campaign moved booked meeting rates from under 1% to 13-14%. ㅤ The conversation stays specific: product signals for targeting, gifting that feels personal instead of a $25 gift card, $150K to $200K in pipeline per send, and roughly 9X ROI on year-one spend. Jess also shares what didn't travel when she tried to take a US playbook global. ㅤ 👤 Guest Bio Jess Annadurai is Senior Global Marketing Director at Supermetrics, where she's spent just over three and a half years, first as North American head of marketing and then across a global remit covering demand, field, partner, and customer marketing. She was an active 6sense power user around 2018 and has worked both sides of the ABM world, as a practitioner buying the tools and as a marketer at an ABM vendor before moving to the data side of martech. ㅤ 📌 What We Cover Why a PLG customer base is the best target account list you already own, and how much context it hands you for free How Jess, the VP of Sales, and the Director of Customer Success agreed that customer education was the real gap Starting with an advocacy approach: 10 customer case studies, and the new use cases and retention lift they uncovered Segmenting custome… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/scrappy-abm-6475637/episodes/20k-in-sends-a-million-in-pipeline-with-jess-annadurai-from-supermetrics-ep-278/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/scrappy-abm-6475637/20k-in-sends-a-million-in-pipeline-with-jess-annadurai-from-supermetrics-ep-278.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.