# Scott & Mark Learn To...Pilot Coding - Vibe Coding for Real

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Published: 2026-01-21T16:15:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2019

## Resource

In this episode,  Scott Hanselman  and  Mark Russinovich  explore how AI-assisted vibe coding is changing the way complex software gets built, debugged, and refined. Mark walks through real-world experiments using AI to tackle difficult engineering problems, including gRPC shared memory, Win32 UI work, and major new features coming to ZoomIt. The conversation digs into where AI meaningfully accelerates development, where it still requires careful human oversight, and how tools like screenshots, debug output, MCP servers, and multimodal feedback loops are reshaping modern developer workflows. The result is an honest, technical discussion about productivity gains, limitations, and the evolving role of human judgment in AI-driven software engineering.    Takeaways:      Debug output and screenshots are critical for helping AI understand  Faster iteration often leads to more polished software, not just quicker results  Concurrency and low-level systems problems remain difficult for AI to solve without supervision    Who are they?       View Scott Hanselman on LinkedIn    View Mark Russinovich on LinkedIn       Watch Scott and Mark Learn on  YouTube            Listen to other episodes at  scottandmarklearn.to              Discover and follow other Microsoft podcasts at  microsoft.com/podcasts Produced by Hangar Studios Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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