# 6/12/26 Ben Freeman on the Plan to Quietly Integrate the US and Israeli Militaries

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Podcast: [Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews](https://stenobird.com/podcast/scott-horton-show-just-the-interviews-970238)
Published: 2026-06-15T00:39:00+00:00
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## Resource

Scott interviews Ben Freeman of the Quincy Institute about Section 224 of the 2027 NDAA, which, if passed, would essentially integrate the entire US military industrial complex with Israel. Scott and Freeman dig into the consequences of such a change and how you can get involved in the ongoing effort to stop it. Discussed on the show: The Trillion Dollar War Machine: How Runaway Military Spending Drives America into Foreign Wars and Bankrupts Us at Home by William D Hartung and Ben Freeman “Congress quietly moves to integrate US and Israeli militaries” (Responsible Statecraft) thinktankfundingtracker.org Ben Freeman is a Research Fellow at the Quincy Institute. He previously served as Director of the Foreign Influence Transparency Initiative with the Center for International Policy. Read his work at Antiwar.com and Responsible Statecraft. Follow him on Twitter @BenFreemanDC. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth app: https://podsworth.com Use code HORTON50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings, sound like a pro, and also support the Scott Horton Show! For more on Scott's work: Check out The Libertarian Institute: https://www.libertarianinstitute.org Check out Scott's other show, Provoked, with Darryl Cooper https://youtube.com/@Provoked_Show Read Scott's books: Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/47jMtg7 (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com) Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/3tgMCdw Fool’s Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan https://amzn.to/3HRufs0 Follow Scott on X @scotthortonshow And check out Scott’s full interview archives: https://scotthorton.org/all-interviews T…

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