# 286. What to Do When School Leadership Feels Like Survival with Nachum Segal

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Podcast: [Schools of Excellence: The No. 1 ECE & Private School Leadership Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/schools-of-excellence-the-no-1-ece-private-school-leadership-podcast-1381040)
Published: 2026-05-12T08:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://schoolsofexcellence.com/podcast
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Duration seconds: 1261

## Resource

What happens when the success you worked so hard to build starts to feel like survival? In this episode, Chanie Wilschanski joins radio host Nachum Segal on JM in the AM to talk about her new book, This Can't Be Normal. They cover the invisible weight of school leadership, why burnout is a rhythm problem not a workload problem, and what it actually looks like to lead a school sustainably, without running yourself into the ground. If you've ever wondered why leading well still feels so hard, this conversation is for you. This Can't Be Normal: What to Do When Success Starts to Feel Like Survival by Chanie Wilschanski — available on Amazon, Walmart, Barnes & Noble, and wherever books are sold: https://thiscantbenormal.com Listen to JM in the AM with Nachum Segal: https://www.nachumsegal.com/ Mentioned in this episode: Staff Culture Infrastructure Vault Train your team on the fundamentals most teachers were never formally taught. $2,273 of proven staff training tools — yours for just $347: https://discovered.thrivecart.com/the-school-culture-foundations-vault/

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