# How This Plumbing Company Hit 30 Million With a Sales Team Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-up-with-fexingo-how-small-businesses-become-mid-market-companies-7871589/how-this-plumbing-company-hit-30-million-with-a-sales-team Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-up-with-fexingo-how-small-businesses-become-mid-market-companies-7871589/how-this-plumbing-company-hit-30-million-with-a-sales-team.md Podcast: [Scaling Up with Fexingo: How Small Businesses Become Mid-Market Companies](https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-up-with-fexingo-how-small-businesses-become-mid-market-companies-7871589) Published: 2026-06-23T16:06:27+00:00 Episode link: https://audio.fexingo.com/business/scaling-up/episode-0070.mp3 Audio file: https://audio.fexingo.com/business/scaling-up/episode-0070.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/scaling-up-with-fexingo-how-small-businesses-become-mid-market-companies-7871589/episodes/how-this-plumbing-company-hit-30-million-with-a-sales-team Duration seconds: 484 ## Resource In episode 70 of Scaling Up with Fexingo, Lucas and Luna dive into the counterintuitive story of a residential plumbing company in Phoenix that scaled from $4 million to $30 million in revenue within five years — by building a dedicated sales team. Most tradespeople avoid sales because they see it as pushy or unprofessional. But this company, founded by a former HVAC technician named Dave Merrill, flipped the script. They hired salespeople who were trained to consult, not push, and they compensated them with a base salary plus a small commission on gross profit — not percentage of ticket. The result? They doubled close rates and average job value while keeping customer satisfaction scores above 94 percent. The hosts break down the specific compensation model, the hiring profile they looked for (hint: no prior sales experience required), and how they integrated sales into a field-service operation without creating internal conflict. They also discuss the common pitfalls other plumbers make when trying to replicate the model — like paying commission on revenue instead of gross profit. If you run a service business and you've been hesitant to add sales headcount, this episode gives you a concrete blueprint to follow. #ScalingUp #BusinessPodcast #FexingoBusiness #PlumbingBusiness #ServiceBusiness #SalesTeam #RevenueGrowth #30Million #DaveMerrill #Phoenix #TradeBusiness #CommissionModel #GrossProfit #CustomerSatisfaction #FieldService #ConsultativeSelling #ScalingWithoutAds #BusinessGrowth Keep every episode free: buymeacoffee.com/fexingo ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/scaling-up-with-fexingo-how-small-businesses-become-mid-market-companies-7871589/episodes/how-this-plumbing-company-hit-30-million-with-a-sales-team/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-up-with-fexingo-how-small-businesses-become-mid-market-companies-7871589/how-this-plumbing-company-hit-30-million-with-a-sales-team.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.