# The story of Pydantic and Logfire | Samuel Colvin

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Published: 2024-11-28T12:12:05+00:00
Episode link: https://podcast.scalingdevtools.com/episodes/samuel-pydantic
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## Resource

​Samuel Colvin​ - the creator of ​Pydantic​ - the most popular data validation library for Python. Used by literally everyone (Anthropic, OpenAI, Meta, NVIDIA, even the NSA). He shares the story behind his startup ​Logfire​ which just raised $12.5m from Sequoia. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS . If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Key takeaways: - You can just build a different product to your open source project and leverage your brand - Quality of product matters a LOT (if you can build a popular open source project, can probably build a quality paid product) - Really helps to be part of a movement. Hard to predict but Pydantic benefited from two (types and LLMs) - GitHub stars are a vanity metric compared to download numbers Links: - Pydantic - Logfire - Samuel Colvin Chapters 00:00 The Genesis of Pydantic 02:46 The Evolution of Software Development 06:02 Building a Successful Open Source Library 08:52 The Impact of Community and Adoption 11:51 Metrics of Success in Open Source 15:08 Transitioning from Pydantic to LogFire 17:59 The Vision Behind LogFire 20:50 The Connection Between Pydantic and LogFire 24:05 Navigating the Challenges of Building a Startup 26:56 The Future of Observability and Databases P.s. thanks to my friend Abeed for making the episode happen!

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