# Taylor Otwell - founder of Laravel Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-devtools/taylor-otwell-founder-of-laravel Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-devtools/taylor-otwell-founder-of-laravel.md Podcast: [Scaling DevTools](https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-devtools) Published: 2025-01-30T13:01:03+00:00 Episode link: https://podcast.scalingdevtools.com/episodes/taylor-otwell Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/2380e18a/a7f7be0c.mp3 Processing state: failed JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/scaling-devtools/episodes/taylor-otwell-founder-of-laravel Duration seconds: 2315 ## Resource Taylor Otwell is the creator of the Laravel framework. Taylor has created numerous paid products that have generated millions, such as: Laravel Forge (server provisioning/management) Laravel Vapor (serverless Laravel hosting with AWS) Laravel Envoyer (zero downtime PHP deployments) Laravel Nova (Laravel admin panel) In this interview, Taylor shares why he is now building Laravel Cloud - an infrastructure platform for Laravel apps and why Laravel Cloud needed VC funding. We also cover: The different challenges of bootstrapped and VC funded startups How the Laravel ecosystem became so entrepreneurial Building products for the average joe developer The role of taste and craft in developer tools What Taylor and Adam Wathan learned from each other Fear and Taylor's comparison with Alex Honnold This episode is brought to you by WorkOS . If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links: Laravel Taylor Otwell Laravel Cloud Open jobs at Laravel Adam Wathan Chapters: 00:00 The Journey of Laravel's Creator 02:48 Transitioning from Bootstrap to VC Funding 06:10 Building Laravel Cloud: A New Challenge 09:04 The Shift in Company Structure and Culture 11:50 Maintaining Quality and Usability in Development 15:09 Community Impact and Collaboration 17:56 Craftsmanship and Design Philosophy 20:45 Navigating Growth and Market Needs 23:54 Advice for Aspiring DevTool Founders 26:48 Future Directions and Innovations in Laravel Thank you to Michael Grinich for making this happen. Thank you to Ostap Brehin for introducing me to Laravel. Thank you to Hank Taylor for helping me prep. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/scaling-devtools/episodes/taylor-otwell-founder-of-laravel/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-devtools/taylor-otwell-founder-of-laravel.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.