# Shipping 22 products to find the true product - Utpal from Digger.dev

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Podcast: [Scaling DevTools](https://stenobird.com/podcast/scaling-devtools)
Published: 2025-06-17T07:34:08+00:00
Episode link: https://podcast.scalingdevtools.com/episodes/shipping-22-products-to-find-the-true-product-utpal-from-digger-dev
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## Resource

Utpal Nadiger is the cofounder of Digger.dev. Digger built a popular open source IaC orchestration tool. Their new product Infrabase is an AI DevOps agent that scans IaC code in your pull requests. We talk about SF, resiliency and pivoting. Links: Utpal Digger Tavus (lipsync) This episode is brought to you by WorkOS . If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Why/how we lipsynced : The (amazing) studio accidentally had Utpal's camera switched off for the first 20 minutes. So I lipsynced the audio onto the latter part of the video. You can probably notice if you look closely. And also his gestures don't always look congruent because of the lipsyncing. But overall, incredible tech from Tavus - much better than a blank screen in my opinion!

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