# Mitchell Hashimoto: Ghostty, libghostty & chasing the human experience

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Published: 2025-02-20T19:16:25+00:00
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Mitchell Hashimoto - famously the founder of HashiCorp (creators of Terraform, Vault etc.) joins the show to discuss his latest open-source project, Ghostty, a modern terminal emulator. We discuss: Designing dev tools with a focus on human experience. Taking on large technical projects and breaking them down into achievable steps. Open source sustainability and the role of financial support. The impossible goal of building a perfect human experience with software. Passion and hiring—why obsession with a topic often leads to the best hires. Using AI as a developer and why Mitchell considers AI tooling essential. The motivation behind Ghostty and the idea of "technical philanthropy." The vision for libghostty as a reusable terminal core for other applications. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. https://workos.com/ Links: Ghostty ( https://ghostty.org/ ) Mitchell Hashimoto on Twitter ( https://twitter.com/mitchellh ) Mitchell’s blog ( https://mitchellh.com/ )

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