# Finding your first 10 customers, with Andy Lee from DeepTrace

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Published: 2026-03-29T15:59:53+00:00
Episode link: https://podcast.scalingdevtools.com/episodes/andy-lee
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## Resource

Technical founders can treat sales as an engineering problem by applying high-volume outbound strategies and data-driven targeting. Andy Lee shares how DeepTrace used LinkedIn automation and persona research to secure enterprise customers without a traditional sales team.

## Highlights
- Main idea: Technical founders should leverage their domain expertise to build trust, as engineers prefer buying from peers who understand their pain points
- Practical takeaway: Use tools like Clay and Paradigm to hydrate lead lists with signals like 'previous startup experience' to increase outreach hit rates
- Failure mode: Over-reliance on complex procurement processes can kill early-stage startups; prioritize 'rebel' personas who value speed over bureaucracy
- Main idea: Early-stage sales is as much about the founder's personal brand and 'scrappiness' as it is about the product's features
- Practical takeaway: High-volume outbound is a brute-force necessity for the first ten customers to build momentum and validate the market

## Topics

DevTools, Go-to-Market Strategy, Outbound Sales, Technical Founders, AI Reliability, Lead Generation, Startup Growth, Incident Response

## Chapters
- 1:00 — Selling the Founder, Not Just the Product: How building personal relationships and demonstrating scrappiness helped secure a Fortune 1000 customer.
- 4:20 — The Engineering Approach to Sales Volume: Why technical founders often underrate the necessity of high-volume outbound activity to find early traction.
- 7:40 — Leveraging Pain Points and War Stories: Using emotional connection and shared technical struggles to drive engagement during discovery calls.
- 14:50 — Optimizing LinkedIn Outreach Conversion: Analyzing the conversion rates of LinkedIn connection requests and message responses in a cold outbound campaign.
- 21:40 — Targeting Personas via Online Presence: Using signals like 'startup background' and personality traits to refine lead selection and increase hit rates.
- 25:05 — Automating Lead Enrichment with AI: Using the X API and AI-driven spreadsheets to identify engineers complaining about incident response.
- 35:10 — Pricing Strategies for Early Stage DevTools: Navigating the complexities of pricing models while still iterating on product-market fit.
- 38:40 — The Future of AI-Driven Incident Response: How DeepTrace uses machine learning and statistical methods to augment LLM capabilities in production monitoring.

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