# Maduro Locked Him Up. He’s Got Thoughts About Trump’s Attack on Venezuela.

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Podcast: [Say More](https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-more-6418113)
Published: 2026-01-13T17:14:00+00:00
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## Resource

Freddy Guevara has been in exile for more than 5 years. As a leader of a major opposition party in Venezuela, he was targeted and jailed by the Maduro government. Now, he and many other Venezuelans are watching as Maduro faces charges in a US court. This week on Say More, Guevara talks to opinion page editor Jim Dao about how Venezuelans are feeling about Trump’s moves in their country, and other thoughts about the so-called international order. An expert on authoritarianism, Guevara offers some wisdom on what Americans can do to avoid an autocratic backslide. Email us at saymore@globe.com.

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