# EP 6: A Conversation with Jon Murray of Noko

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Podcast: [Say Grace](https://stenobird.com/podcast/say-grace-7195172)
Published: 2025-11-20T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://say-grace.captivate.fm
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## Resource

Jon Murray is the founder of Noko and Kase, two acclaimed East Nashville restaurants that blend Southern roots with a global point of view. With nearly two decades of hospitality experience, Jon is reshaping modern dining through purpose-driven concepts, people-first workplaces, and a commitment to thoughtful, intentional guest experiences. His work challenges industry norms while setting a new standard for creativity and care in contemporary hospitality. In this episode, Jon sits down with his long-time friend, Steve Palmer, to discuss the challenges of leadership, learning to balance multiple restaurant concepts, and their journey to sobriety through the “gift of desperation.” Thank you to Lagos Creative for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.

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