# Sawbones: Matilda and Telekinesis

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Podcast: [Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine](https://stenobird.com/podcast/sawbones-a-marital-tour-of-misguided-medicine-317119)
Published: 2026-06-16T16:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Dr. Sydnee is joined this week by Charlie and Cooper, who are starring in a production of Matilda, and therefore experts in . . . telekinetic government experiments. The three McElroys talk about the unsuccessful history of trying to prove – or create – people moving objects with their minds, including Uri Geller and the CIA. Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers https://taxpayers.bandcamp.com/ Lamda Legal: https://lambdalegal.org/

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