# Joy as a Rebellion: Why Fun Is the New Power Move

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Podcast: [Savvy Sisters & Cocktail Conversations](https://stenobird.com/podcast/savvy-sisters-cocktail-conversations-7090898)
Published: 2026-02-01T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcast.show/3824476/episode/151895999/
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## Resource

In this anniversary episode of Savvy Sisters & Cocktail Conversations, Julie Flowers and Yvonne Rocha Contreras clink glasses (bubbly or mocktail—no judgment) to celebrate one full year of real talk, sisterhood, and unapologetic growth. And they’re marking the milestone by blowing up a myth: that joy is fluffy, optional, or unserious. THE TWIST: Joy is strategy. Joy is resilience. And joy might just be the most rebellious leadership move a woman can make. They unpack the difference between happiness (cute, fleeting, and usually external) and joy (deeply rooted, grounded, and sustainable AF). Then comes the truth bomb

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