# Is the 'Shields Up' era of CISA over?

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Podcast: [Safe Mode Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/safe-mode-podcast-6421323)
Published: 2026-02-26T17:01:52+00:00
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## Resource

One year into the second Trump administration, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) is facing what former officials and industry partners describe in stark terms: “decimated,” “amateur hour,” and “pretty much fallen apart.” In this episode, Greg Otto dives in with Tim Starks to unpack what’s happened inside the nation’s lead civilian cyber defense agency—and what it could mean for the country’s ability to withstand the next major cyber crisis. In the interview segment, we bring two experts from the DOD's Cyber Crime Center to speak about what they're seeing on the threat landscape.

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