# A Year of Work in Seven Days (with Chris Walker from Encoded) | Ep. 13

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Podcast: [Safe Doesn't Scale](https://stenobird.com/podcast/safe-doesn-t-scale-7693846)
Published: 2026-05-28T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.limelighthq.com/
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Most founder advice treats output as a function of effort. Work more hours, run more plays, push through the resistance. The premise of this episode is that effort is the wrong unit of measurement, and the bottleneck most operators are missing has nothing to do with productivity systems or willpower. ㅤ David Walsh , founder of Limelight , sits down with Chris Walker , founder and CEO of Encoded and author of The Frequency Era . Chris is the person many B2B marketers know as the founder of Refine Labs and the loudest voice against MQL-driven demand gen. He spent six years becoming "the B2B marketing guy" before stepping away to build something completely different. ㅤ This conversation is about why he left, what frequency training actually is, and how nervous system capacity quietly caps every founder's ceiling. Chris also shares his framework for the cost of not taking the leap, and the math on output when you're in the right state versus grinding through Zoom meetings. ㅤ Guest Bio Chris Walker is the founder and CEO of Encoded , a neuroscience-backed training system that rewrites subconscious programs to expand nervous system capacity. He's the author of The Frequency Era , released a few weeks before this recording. Chris previously founded Refine Labs in 2019 and bootstrapped it from a $100/hour contract into one of the most-followed agencies in B2B marketing before exiting in 2025. He's a five-time entrepreneur, a trained biomedical engineer, and has been training himself in the frequency system daily for four to five years. ㅤ What We Cover Quitting alcohol as a capacity decision: Chris stopped drinking 18 months ago after deciding it was capping his potential. He frames alcohol not as a willpower problem but as something so socially validated that people misread th…

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