# ICE Arrests Are Only the Beginning

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Podcast: [Runaway Country with Alex Wagner](https://stenobird.com/podcast/runaway-country-with-alex-wagner-485012)
Published: 2026-01-22T08:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Even police chiefs in Minnesota are calling out ICE tactics as race-based and out of line. This week, Alex focuses on what comes next — from conditions at ICE detention centers, to the long-term impacts this lawless use of force will have on communities. First Alex speaks to David Wilson, an immigration attorney in Minneapolis about the horrible treatment and lack of medical care his clients are facing. Then she’s joined by MS NOW Political and National Correspondent, Jacob Soboroff, to talk about what he’s seeing on the ground in Minneapolis, how Trump 2.0 immigration enforcement compares to the family separation policy he covered during the first term, and his new book “ Firestorm: The Great Los Angeles Fires and America’s New Age of Disaster ”.

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