# Healing Leaders: An Inside-Out Path to Better Decisions

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Podcast: [Rule Breaker Investing](https://stenobird.com/podcast/rule-breaker-investing-3297)
Published: 2026-01-14T17:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week on Rule Breaker Investing, David is joined by Raj Sisodia and Nilima Bhat, co-authors of Healing Leaders, for a conversation about leadership burnout, meaning, and why wholeness may be a strategic advantage. Rather than treating healing as a “soft” idea, Raj and Nilima walk through the book’s seven steps and explore how inner state shapes judgment, patience, courage, and long-term thinking—in business, investing, and life. Along the way, they connect the “Wise Fool” archetype and the idea of Shakti to conscious capitalism, rule-breaking optimism, and the kind of leadership that compounds over time. Host: David GardnerGuests: Nilima Bhat, Raj SisodiaProducer: Bart Shannon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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