# Steve Hansen on What’s Wrong with the Wallabies, All Blacks under Dave Rennie + Springbok’s depth flex!

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Published: 2026-07-13T05:11:51+00:00
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## Resource

The Wallabies show up, then fade out, again. David Pembroke, Ewen McKenzie and Steve Hansen rip into what went wrong against France, why Australia’s discipline and “micro moments” keep costing them, and what Les Kiss has to fix first ahead of Japan in Osaka. There’s plenty on the tactical detail too, from France’s short kick-offs and Lucu’s passing width, to selection calls, bench impact, and why Fraser McReight looks every bit world-class. Across the ditch, the All Blacks are building momentum under Dave Rennie with tries flowing, clarity in how they want to play, and standouts like Will Jordan and Jordie Barrett driving real connection in the backline. Plus, the Nations Championship travel controversy erupts after Japan v Ireland is moved to Newcastle, and the panel takes a hard line on yellow cards deciding games. Also in this episode: ● Why Wallabies fade after 30 minutes against France ● Lucu’s phase passing and France bending Australia’s defence ● Jorgensen tackle, TMO intervention, and momentum swings ● Fraser McReight labelled Australia’s player of the day ● All Blacks energy under Dave Rennie, nine tries v Italy ● Japan v Ireland venue switch slammed as unfair PLUS: A big-picture look at discipline, travel, and how World Rugby protects contest integrity. SIGN UP TO THE BIG 3 HERE: https://tinyurl.com/big3rugbyunity 👈👈 Ask Eddie Jones and Ewen McKenzie anything! Fill out the form below 👇 https://tinyurl.com/rugbyunityquestions 👈👈 👉 Want more from Rugby Unity? Subscribe to our Substack for exclusive content, blogs, behind-the-scenes insights, and full podcast access — all in one place: Rugby Unity | Substack   📧 Get in touch: info@rugbyunity.com.au Thanks to Eleven labs for providing a grant to Rugby Unity so that we can use their world leading software. Ti…

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