# Interview with Michael Tracey: How Epstein Is the New Russiagate | Ep 46

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Podcast: [Rufo & Lomez](https://stenobird.com/podcast/rufo-lomez-7568240)
Published: 2026-05-05T17:02:00+00:00
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## Resource

Investigative reporter Michael Tracey debunks some of the most infamous Epstein conspiracy theories and shares how the Epstein files became the ultimate political weapon. ► Subscribe to Rufo & Lomez on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoxZVv224nHvTmkMk0N3fYA?sub_confirmation=1 ► Join BlazeTV! https://get.blazetv.com/rufoandlomez/ Ep. 46: 1. (0:00:00) – Intro: Michael Tracey’s Ideology and Career Path 2. (0:07:34) – From the Left to Ideological Skeptic 3. (0:12:12) – The Epstein Discourse & Tracey’s Role 4. (0:17:15) – Virginia Giuffre, Dershowitz, and Recantation 5. (0:20:43) – Epstein as a Pop‑Culture Conspiracy Phenomenon 6. (0:28:35) – Elon Musk, ‘Client List,’ and Political Weaponization 7. (0:37:19) – What Did Epstein Actually Do? Tracey’s Steelman 8. (0:51:20) – Debunking Mossad Super‑Spy Myths & Money Questions 9. (0:58:15) – Michael Tracey vs Jim Acosta at the Substack Party Connect with us: https://twitter.com/christopherrufo https://twitter.com/L0m3z https://facebook.com/rufoandlomez https://instagram.com/rufoandlomez ►Subscribe on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/rufo-lomez/id1849758826 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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