# Soap Box: Where does AI fit into cloud security?

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Podcast: [Risky Business](https://stenobird.com/podcast/risky-business-548735)
Published: 2026-05-15T04:55:09+00:00
Episode link: https://risky.biz/SOAPBOX107/
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## Resource

In this sponsored soap box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Toni de la Fuente, the founder of Prowler. Prowler started off as a bunch of scripts in a trenchcoat, then became an open source cloud security tool, and it’s now a venture-funded cloud security business. In this interview Toni talks us through how AI is changing the game for him as an open source project owner, and as a vendor. In short, reports of the death of IT and security tooling at the hands of frontier models have been greatly exaggerated. This episode is also available on Youtube.

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