# Srsly Risky Biz: US Vows to Fight Distillation Attacks

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Podcast: [Risky Bulletin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/risky-bulletin-5423259)
Published: 2026-04-30T03:03:07+00:00
Episode link: https://risky.biz/SRB165/
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## Resource

Tom Uren and Amberleigh Jack talk about the US government stepping in to fight ‘distillation attacks’ by Chinese AI labs. These are methods used to steal the special sauce of frontier AI models simply by asking questions. They also discuss the wide-spread shift amongst Chinese threat actors to using botnets for all aspects of their operations. It’s a problem for defenders, but also a disruption opportunity for authorities. This episode is also available on YouTube.

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