# Srsly Risky Biz: Open weight models make the Mythos debate moot

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Podcast: [Risky Bulletin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/risky-bulletin-5423259)
Published: 2026-06-25T08:38:45+00:00
Episode link: https://risky.biz/SRB172/
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Tom Uren and James Wilson talk about the Five Eyes cyber security agencies warning about the arrival of AI-enabled cyber threats. The call-to-action is driven by the recognition that it is no longer possible to limit AI’s offensive cyber security capabilities to benign actors. The genie is out of the bottle, regardless of export controls on frontier models. They also discuss the progress of Operation Endgame, the multinational joint operation that has been disrupting the cybercriminal ecosystem. It’s been a great success, but criminal enterprises bounce back. Keeping a lid on cybercrime will require continuous disruption programs. This episode is also available on YouTube.

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